Re: HAVEAWOMANDOIT.COM (sent 03/04/10)?
From: Warner (warner@thedomaininvestors.com)
Sent: Fri 3/05/10 1:03 PM
To: katie
It’s a big risk to proceed without professional valuation. I already spoke
to industry experts and they prohibited me to do business without
valuation..

Without manual valuation nobody will buy. You’ll sit on your domain for
years in this case, paying renewal fees to your registrar. Just think about
it. So sooner or later, you’ll have to obtain an appraisal. Why waste time
now?

As a seller, you can use a valuation certificate to sell names to other
buyers. I cannot do the same because I don’t keep control over your domain.

I’m still interested in your domain. Hope you’ll change your position. I
simply don’t want to take additional risks.

Thank you for understanding. I’m looking forward to do business with you.
—– Original Message —–
From: katie
To: warner@thedomaininvestors.com
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 4:44 PM
Subject: RE: HAVEAWOMANDOIT.COM (sent 03/04/10)

Mr. Warner,
I appreciate you interest in HAVEAWOMANDOIT.COM. I’m not opposed to selling, I’m just not interested in purchasing an appraisal at this time.
Sincerely,
Katie

From: warner@thedomaininvestors.com
To: Katie
Subject: Re: HAVEAWOMANDOIT.COM (sent 03/04/10)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:47:04 +0300

It’s a standard practice to show independent valuation to buyers/resellers.
Nobody will do business without it. I’m a businessman and have no intention
of changing rules which help both parties to avoid additional risks.

Of course, investors never take into account auto-generated valuations. So
manual valuation is a “must” too.

I read the following information about appraisals at:
http://www.domainexplorer.org/Archive/75142903.htm

Without the independent valuation from a trusted source we don’t spend a
penny. This is our financial policy. So our offer is just a rought estimate.
If the appraisal comes higher we are ready to offer a bit more. If it comes
lower we will discuss the price with you again.

Thank you for understanding. I’m looking forward to do business with you.

Hope we can come to an agreement fast because I’ll be on vacation soon.
—– Original Message —–
From: katie
To: warner@thedomaininvestors.com
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 6:19 AM
Subject: RE: HAVEAWOMANDOIT.COM (sent 03/04/10)

I have not had my domain name evaluated, but I will be happy to do so. Please provide me with the names of 3 or 4 of the independent sources that you and your partners trust!
Thank you!

From: warner@thedomaininvestors.com
To: katie
Subject: Re: HAVEAWOMANDOIT.COM (sent 03/04/10)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 02:26:20 +0300

Can you accept 5,000 USD?

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It’s very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
http://www.domainexplorer.org/Archive/75142903.htm

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% – 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we’ll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.
—– Original Message —–
From: katie
To: warner@thedomaininvestors.com
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:30 PM
Subject: RE: HAVEAWOMANDOIT.COM (sent 03/04/10)

what is you offer?

From: warner@thedomaininvestors.com
To: katie
Subject: HAVEAWOMANDOIT.COM (sent 03/04/10)
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 05:46:32 -0500

Hello,

We buy and sell domains and web pr®jects. What is your price for the domain?

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Robert Warner

CEO

Warner Internet Investment LLC

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Told him to get lost and find a real job.
Thanks everyone.

Sedo is a good broker and we can use it for transfer/transaction.
Unfortunately , Sedo is not acceptable as an appraiser because your names
are listed with them and they are not independent. They are interested in
earning 10% commission on every sale. I need appraisals from a company
which is not interested in selling your domains.

I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate appraisals. So I
cannot accept appraisal from each and every site. I will only accept
appraisals from independent appraisal companies I know and trust.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Regards,
Sushant

CEO

Warner Internet Investment LLC

Mail :

Subject : Your domain name

Hello,

We buy and sell domains and web pr®jects. What is your price for the domain?

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Robert Warner

CEO

Warner Internet Investment LLC

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I also like to engage scammers, so my results were very similar to yours, but my favorite response was when I told him that if a buyer really wants an appraisal, they can purchase one themselves from any company they choose. He wrote back with:

“It’s a big risk to proceed without professional valuation. I already spoke
to industry experts and they prohibited me to do business without
valuation..

Without manual valuation nobody will buy. You’ll sit on your domain for
years in this case, paying renewal fees to your registrar. Just think about
it. So sooner or later, you’ll have to obtain an appraisal. Why waste time
now?

As a seller, you can use a valuation certificate to sell names to other
buyers. I cannot do the same because I don’t keep control over your domain.

I’m still interested in your domain. Hope you’ll change your position. I
simply don’t want to take additional risks.

Thank you for understanding. I’m looking forward to do business with you.”

I just loved how he skips right over the point I made about buyers getting their own appraisals and goes right into he speel again.

Anyway, here were the keywords in my correspondence:

Email: bortfeld@domainsecondhand.com
Domain: domainsecondhand.com